Should I just kms?
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Anonymous:Just sperging out on another random board tn, because fuck it. Only do this like once a year or something. But yeah, life feels like a fucking waste. I'm tired of it all. Everyone is fake as fuck, and no one seems to really understand me, as cliche as that sounds. My life has been kinda shit for years, and I have no motivation to really do anything anymore. Nothing I do really helps long term, I always go back to my status quo (or worse). Should I just kms bros? Any advice from those who have felt / are feeling the same way? Thanks for dealing with my autism.
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Anonymous:Do it.
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Anonymous:You wont do it because ur a pussy.
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Anonymous:>Any advice from those who have felt / are feeling the same way?Sure. I felt this way, when I was 16… Then I just grew up.
Anyway, I was kinda dissatisfied with my life before I figured out job that I like or at least do not hate since it’s of the same kind with one of my main hobbies. Having found activities you sincerely like to do is important for getting some meaning and simply teh lulz.
If you feel like society around is fake and shallow, you are completely right. You need to learn to live in such world. You need to stop caring about society for most part, it’s just a tool. Start taking it as granted, use it for your goals without hesitation, and, maybe, embrace some more cynicism and stoicism in your attitude. BTW, reading real philosophers instead of «influencers» could really help to figure out your place in life.
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nigga with a beanie:Seek Christ. Look deep into Orthodoxy or Catholicism. Jesus is alive. More alive than you and me and everyone on the planet put together. The crucifixion is the most documented happening on the face of the planet. Blood had to be shed on the cross for our souls to be healed by the fallen world. Jesus loves you and wants you to be filled with life.
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Anonymous:>>5
Jesus is a Jewish parody of Buddha, translated into Greek-Roman culture.
Better try meditation and rely on yourself for salvation.
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Anonymous:>Jesus is a Jewish parody of Buddha, translated into Greek-Roman culture by retarded Neo-Platonics.
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Anonymous:>>Jesus is a Jewish parody of Buddha, translated into Greek-Roman culture.Source: just trust my huge influx of mental diarrhea splurging right out my ass bro.
>> Better try meditation and rely on yourself for salvation.Sure lets invite 1000 year old demonic entities within our already corrupted psyches surely that'll fix all trauma instead of sweeping everything under the rug right.
Salvation is sought outwards. Not inwards. Buddhism's theology falls apart concerning what is right or wrong. Orthodoxy and some Eastern Catholic churches are the only religions that have a well though out iron clad structure of life for everyone to follow.
Matthew 16:18: And I tell you, you are Peter, and on this rock I will build my church, and the gates of hell shall not prevail against it.
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Anonymous:>>3
probs not, maybe eventually
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>BTW, reading real philosophers instead of «influencers» could really help to figure out your place in life.yeah philosophy is pretty interesting, I've looked into different specific philosophies but it's hard to know where to start / truly invest time reading into... I am surely far more stoic than I was at age 16, but probably not the true form of stoicism in a philosophical sense - will look more into it, thank you.
>>5 grew up Catholic, did nothing for me and have "lost my faith". Glad it helps you, though.
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I used to meditate fairly regularly, it didn't resolve all my mental torment or anything (of course). but it was a useful tool and I definitely benefited from it - I want to start again but it's hard to find discipline to do it daily.
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You sound like a schizo retard here, meditation is not demonic and many Christians use it in combination with prayer.
Anyways thanks for your input, will definitely look into some of the philosophy shit a bit more soon.
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Anonymous:>I've looked into different specific philosophies but it's hard to know where to start / truly invest time reading into...I had the same feeling... So I just started with classics, with Greeks. Aristotle, Plato...
Just keep in mind that you will need to read and analyze what smart people wrote back in the days. It's not religion, you are supposed to make your own opinions based on what you read.
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Anonymous:>Source:Christianity doesn't work for educated people, because we read antic authors and know that New Testament is simply a compilation of Hellenic philosophy of its time, and Judaism.
Old Testament is simply a compilation of Jewish legends. I have no idea why I must believe in fairy tales, and considering mythological and literary value, I would prefer to read Edda.
>Sure lets invite 1000 year old demonic entities within our already corrupted psyches surely that'll fix all trauma instead of sweeping everything under the rug rightBuddhism is literally the opposite. It offers to purify the mind and soul from any entities, including your "illusionary" (actually meaning non-static) ego.
I'm not a fan, but some Buddhism/Dharmist practices are worth it.
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Anonymous:>>10
Sounds good, will do some reading from Greek philosophers and go from there soon... sadly time is limited, but that is partially just an excuse on my part. I will make time.
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Anonymous:Stoicism is just the art of coping. Coping is a dirty word nowadays. There's different levels to it, but in the end it's all still coping. Your "place in life" probably sucks. It would just be more ideal if people were superhumanly virtuous.
Would it make things better if someone understood you? Then you might feel as if you had to live for that person.
I hope you don't "grow up" because if you quit feeling pain then that's when you know you're really and truly dead inside.
People rarely practice what they preach and the same goes for philosophers and religious leaders. You have to ask what they're trying to sell to you. Who does it benefit?
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Anonymous:>Stoicism is just the art of copingIt’s very vulgar understanding of the term. You should check out the sources to figure out this thing by yourself.
Apatheia literally means no coping, no passions. It's more like Buddhist nirvana, which is opposite to coping and more like embracing any changes in dynamic reality. Stoics just didn't offer any advanced practices.
>It would just be more ideal if people were superhumanly virtuous.It would be society of retards and probably wouldn't last long.
Take a look at what SJWs are struggling for. That is really awful.
>Would it make things better if someone understood you? Then you might feel as if you had to live for that person.What are you talking about? People fall in love, people have kids or other human beings to take of.
Everyone wants to feel they are needed. You are no exception.
So just find this place, fellow. That's all what I can advise.
>You have to ask what they're trying to sell to you. Who does it benefit?If it doesn't benefit you quit this shit. Stupid simple.
And fucking stop caring about what other people do. If they want to be misguided, let them. At least figure out your own shit before offering what the society should be.
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Anonymous:Perhaps in its ideal form you have a point. But as done by common people, it is certainly vulgar enough to be called coping. You can't help others when you can't even help yourself. A high-functioning person who chooses to live like a low-functioning person is worlds away from actual low-functioning people.
>The difficulty of becoming a sage was often discussed in Stoicism. When Panaetius, the seventh and final scholarch of the Stoa, was asked by a young man whether a sage would fall in love, he responded by saying: "As to the wise man, we shall see. What concerns you and me, who are still a great distance from the wise man, is to ensure that we do not fall into a state of affairs which is disturbed, powerless, subservient to another and worthless to oneself."
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fixed keyboard guy:>>Christianity doesn't work for educated people, because we read antic authors and know that New Testament is simply a compilation of Hellenic philosophy of its time, and Judaism.Again with the baseless assertions. Okay that is fine. Here's my assertion then: You agnostic/new age guru types fail to realize that the entirety of our prospering civilization in the past 2000 years is built on the blood and the cross. The same prospering civilized society that you are in right now. Typing away comfortably on your computer. Christ is the ultimate law giver. It was always Christ that everyone looked back to when forming governments. Because he is truth. What has Buddhism and/or Hinduism provided other than bug-brained shitholes with naked people running around deifying death?
Look I've heard this line of thinking before. Just because the New Testament uses several quotes from Greek pagan sources to drive a point home in the trinitarian theology of the godhead doesn't mean squat. Why? Because we can see the the same trinitarian godhead in the old testament. Which came THOUSANDS of years before our savior. Also, how else would you reconcile the mindset of the masses during the time? This doesn't negate the fact that the New Testament quite literally CONFIRMS the Old Testament.
>>Old Testament is simply a compilation of Jewish legends. I have no idea why I must believe in fairy tales, and considering mythological and literary value, I would prefer to read Edda.Here's the real kicker. Your type is so fast to go to old mythical pagan texts who's manuscripts dates to hundreds, perhaps THOUSANDS of years later. You wouldn't give much thought to whether it was corrupted by oral/textual story tellers down the line? Oh but with the Bible its sure to have changed and altered since its inception...right. The Bible (New Testament) meanwhile can be dated WITHIN the first century when it was written. Plus the eyewitness accounts around the area only supports Jesus actually existing and being crucified. inb4 MUH COUNCEEL OF NICEAHH MADE UP TRINATEEE!!
>>read Edda.
>>Buddhism is literally the opposite. It offers to purify the mind and soul from any entities, including your "illusionary" (actually meaning non-static) ego.Brother I truly hope you yield to the true Holy Spirit. Not this New age false spirit that has been spoon fed to your liking.
To "purify" your mind and soul, that is, to achieve ego death, is to die itself. You forfeit your own soul for a false "nothingness". Satan doesn't care what you believe in so long its not the true God and Messiah. The minute you focus on the "self" in deep meditative thought is the moment you allow any entity that had been lurking right beside you (maybe even since birth) to come and latch onto your psyche. The deep meditative "insights" people get may seem fruitful at first, sure. But this is not salvation. This is not life. It's like signing a contract with the evil one only for a moment of pleasure in a measly human lifetime.
You are better off wrestling with God for all of your life than to know him then reject his love altogether in the end.
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Anonymous:>>16
Not him. You had to resort to bringing up materialistic conditions. The problem with the Indians is they've always been too spiritual even while living in shit while the Chinese have the opposite problem. This civilization which you're so proud of is about to meet its end just like when Christianity finished off paganism in the Roman Empire.
Are most moderns any wiser or more civilized than the ancient Greeks?
Europeans (snowniggers) would have been fine without Christianity. Buddhism is just the Eastern version of Christianity so of course things wouldn't have turned out as well for Asians.
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Anonymous:>>17
First time I have heard of the term snownigger...
Well, I guess that's just another thing to be proud of!
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Anonymous:>>15
Your quote literally says that a Stoic man could enjoy life, but the main concern is not to become a worthless normie, dependent on the society affairs. Where's coping?
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I guess, there is little point of discussing philosophy with a fanatic, who doesn't have his own opinions about things.
Moreover, you are fine with your life, your religion is your opium — good luck with that. My recommendation to read philosophers were for a person, who thinks of killing himself.
But let me point out some of your ridiculously false claims.
>fail to realize that the entirety of our prospering civilization in the past 2000 years is built on the blood and the crossNot exactly. Rome was created by pagans, inspired by other pagans Greeks, and ruined by the third pagans Germanic and other tribes. Middle Ages, which were certainly built on blood and cross, are a synonym of low tier civilization. If you don't remember, Muslims were much more civilized at the time. I'm not even talking about China, it was civilization #1.
Things became much better for Europe, when Renaissance started, inspired by antics and Hellenic paganism.
>Just because the New Testament uses several quotes from Greek pagan sources to drive a point home in the trinitarian theology of the godhead doesn't mean squatAs a person aside any religion, I have no idea, why Bible is truer source about spirituality than Quran, Edda, Iliad, Tripitaka, etc.
>the eyewitness accounts around the area only supports Jesus actually existing and being crucifiedIf Jesus really existed, that man died like many criminal hobos in the area at the time. Crucifixion wasn't an extraordinary death.
>To "purify" your mind and soul, that is, to achieve ego death, is to die itself. You forfeit your own soul for a false "nothingness".Sunyata is not "nothingness", it's "emptiness". And Dharmist never teaches about ego death. While Abrahamic religions put an equal sign between ego and soul, Dharmist religions do not and consider ego just a conditioned part of human psyche. I am not a Buddhist or whatever, but Dharmist concept makes more sense for me.
>You are better off wrestling with God for all of your life than to know him then reject his love altogether in the end.The thing is I do not deny deities. I deny that some book written by Jews and Greeks is the ultimate truth.
From practical point of view, Bible has not so many useful things to offer. Gospel of John is a good read, because it's heavily influenced by Stoicism. Book of Revelation is fun because it's so impressionist. Oh, Jewish myths are also somewhat interesting since they are so detailed. That's it.